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 Post subject: Re: New Chronomat GMT
PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:48 am 
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I believe the Chronomat 01 LE on bracelet retails for $8,800

Thanks Justin. :thumbsup:

Jeez, at $8,800 USD and at the current FX rate, the LE should be £5,500 GBP, instead of the £6,800 GBP that it actually is. Rip-Off Britain. :roll:

So as the GMT carries a $600 USD premium over the B01 LE in the states, I'd expect it to probably carry at least a £600 GBP premium over here. Hence I bet it'll cost at least £7400, and potentially anywhere up to £8K. Either way, that's some serious money, and people are going to have to seriously like it to pay that. I mean, to pay that sort of cash, people will have to love absolutely EVERYTHING about it. I wonder how many people will.......


As much as I like it, it will be a long time before I could afford it. I like the new CSO and Galactic II (an Evo with a different bezel), and the Chronospace auto as well. But I'm happy with my current line up, and that's what counts. :D

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 Post subject: Re: New Chronomat GMT
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46crew wrote:
Galactic II (an Evo with a different bezel)

That's my take on it, too, although I was wondering if it has an Evo case, or an 01 case. Since it's got the B13 movement, I'm guessing it's still the Evo case, but I can't tell from the pictures.
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 Post subject: Re: New Chronomat GMT
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Am I the only one who doesn't think a steel Breitling is worth $10k? For the record I don't think an IWC Big Pilot should cost $10k either.

OK, lets look at it this way, who else has a full in house gmt on a bracelet like that for 9400? lets take the bracleelt out of it, who has a 100% in house gmt for 8800?

rolex? who else?


In that price range you can get a JLC MC Geographic or a Diving GMT. You CANNOT even compare the watches, the movements, or the companies for that matter. Breitling is out of their mind with that price.

I agree with Driver, the flying fish has been my favorite since the day I saw the photos. I'm looking forward to seeing it in person but I don't think I would buy it because the 3, 6, 9 chrono layout and bezel are already played out IMO....all of the B01's have too many similarities.

i think its expensive, but priced with the market. i would take it over the jlc, but thats me. how can you talk about a movent like ist bad that hasn't even been released yet?
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 Post subject: Re: New Chronomat GMT
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i think its expensive, but priced with the market. i would take it over the jlc, but thats me. how can you talk about a movent like ist bad that hasn't even been released yet?


I never said the B01 GMT was 'bad' I said that you cannot compare it to a JLC calibre. There is no way in the world that anyone can convince me that a B01 can compete with Jaeger, a company that has made more calibre's than ANY other watch maker in the world with over 1,300 different movements. Breitling is on the right path with having an in-house base chrono but it's not in the same class as a JLC.

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 Post subject: Re: New Chronomat GMT
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mfserge wrote:
Breitling is on the right path with having an in-house base chrono but it's not in the same class as a JLC.

Call me a simpleton, but I'd be happy with modified ETAs inside good looking watches. An odd concept, I know, but maybe some day a watch company will have the balls to try it.
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 Post subject: Re: New Chronomat GMT
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JacksonStone wrote:
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Breitling is on the right path with having an in-house base chrono but it's not in the same class as a JLC.

Call me a simpleton, but I'd be happy with modified ETAs inside good looking watches. An odd concept, I know, but maybe some day a watch company will have the balls to try it.


That makes no sense because for the past 30 years Breitling has made some awesome watches with modified ETAs. Plenty of companies make good looking watches with modified ETAs and they're a hell of a lot cheaper than a $9k B01 GMT and much nicer looking.

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 Post subject: Re: New Chronomat GMT
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I'd be happy with modified ETAs inside good looking watches.



But unless that comany is art of the Swatch Group you won't be able to buy those going forward - it would have to be Sellita or one of the other movement makers.
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 Post subject: Re: New Chronomat GMT
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mfserge wrote:
That makes no sense because for the past 30 years Breitling has made some awesome watches with modified ETAs.

Tell me your address so I can send you my copy of Sarcasm for Dummies.
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 Post subject: Re: New Chronomat GMT
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But unless that comany is art of the Swatch Group you won't be able to buy those going forward - it would have to be Sellita or one of the other movement makers.

Yes, unless Breitling makes their own versions of the modified ETAs, as they've been rumored to have been doing. All joking aside, I think going in-house is a great idea, but if I had to make a choice between classically styled Breitlings with ETA-based movements, or their current styles with in-house movements, I'd take the former option any day.
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 Post subject: Re: New Chronomat GMT
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Yes I can agree with that, Breitlings modified ETA models are great pieces BUT the question that Fear asked was 'tell me who makes an all in house GMT movement for the same price point as the B01 GMT...that's how we got on the in-house topic.

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 Post subject: Re: New Chronomat GMT
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mfserge wrote:
Yes I can agree with that, Breitlings modified ETA models are great pieces BUT the question that Fear asked was 'tell me who makes an all in house GMT movement for the same price point as the B01 GMT...that's how we got on the in-house topic.

I think my post was related to that topic. My whole take on the price point of the in-house GMT chrono movement is, "Who cares, if the movement is inside a watch that I'd never want to wear?"
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JacksonStone wrote:
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Yes I can agree with that, Breitlings modified ETA models are great pieces BUT the question that Fear asked was 'tell me who makes an all in house GMT movement for the same price point as the B01 GMT...that's how we got on the in-house topic.

I think my post was related to that topic. My whole take on the price point of the in-house GMT chrono movement is, "Who cares, if the movement is inside a watch that I'd never want to wear?"


I think you are referring to the in house B01 GMT right? I wouldn't want to wear that watch either. It's ridicliously large..almost gawdy looking. Not for me at all.

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mfserge wrote:
I think you are referring to the in house B01 GMT right?

Right. If Breitling were making these advances with the 01 movement, while at the same time putting it in watches like they were designing 5 - 10 years ago, then I'd be into it. As it stands currently, it's yawnsville.
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the eta movement is like a small block chevy, classic, reliable, cheap, bulletproof and with certain modifications a serious performance machine. i dont know why its so hated apon. breitling, cfb, corum and many other modifiy them so much the basic design is all thats left eta, i have no problem with them at all/
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