The Breitling Watch Source Forums

Breitling Watch Information Forums, Navitimer, Chronomat
It is currently Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:50 am

All times are UTC - 8 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 20 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Vintage 1950s Chrono
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2018 9:56 am 
Offline
Breitling Newbie
Breitling Newbie

Joined: Sat May 05, 2018 9:44 am
Posts: 8
Likes: 0 post
Liked in: 0 post
Hi

I am new to vintage Breitling watches & would much appreciate some guidance/help. Previously I have only dealt with vintage rolex & omega watches, thus a newbie to Breitling.:) I came across a vintage Breitling chrono but I’m couldn’t quite verify/check it online. Maybe someone knows what model this is or if it some funny combination? Not sure if it’s good too nice to be true. And in case it’s an actual model, what the appropriate price range would be? I attached a photo. The closest I found online was either a 1950s premier or the Arbitro 2, but as mine is a all numeric I got a bit suspicious.

Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.


You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Vintage 1950s Chrono
PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2018 12:29 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:36 pm
Posts: 14214
Likes: 1469 posts
Liked in: 1727 posts
Location: Vienna, Austria
suspicious with good reason, dial is at least a refinish and I do not recognize the case ..
post a pic of the caseback markings, we’ll know more then.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Vintage 1950s Chrono
PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2018 8:34 pm 
Offline
Breitling Newbie
Breitling Newbie

Joined: Sat May 05, 2018 9:44 am
Posts: 8
Likes: 0 post
Liked in: 0 post
Thank you for your help. So not good news I guess. I have attached a picture of the movement, which might help.

Thanks again!


You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Vintage 1950s Chrono
PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2018 9:17 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:36 pm
Posts: 14214
Likes: 1469 posts
Liked in: 1727 posts
Location: Vienna, Austria
caseback please, as stated above.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Vintage 1950s Chrono
PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 8:34 am 
Offline
Breitling Newbie
Breitling Newbie

Joined: Sat May 05, 2018 9:44 am
Posts: 8
Likes: 0 post
Liked in: 0 post
Sorry, I hope this helps.

Thanks


You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Vintage 1950s Chrono
PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 8:36 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:07 pm
Posts: 488
Likes: 183 posts
Liked in: 185 posts
Sobsadly just a redial. But a very rare reference! Pity the dial :(


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Vintage 1950s Chrono
PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 8:56 am 
Offline
Breitling Newbie
Breitling Newbie

Joined: Sat May 05, 2018 9:44 am
Posts: 8
Likes: 0 post
Liked in: 0 post
What does redial refer to/what does it mean? The new dial?
How would you value such a watch? Or should I keep my hands off?


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Vintage 1950s Chrono
PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 9:59 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:36 pm
Posts: 14214
Likes: 1469 posts
Liked in: 1727 posts
Location: Vienna, Austria
redial means the dial has been re-painted - making the watch much less valuable from a collector‘s standpoint , but no reason not to wear it if you like it as it is.

780 is a truly rare model - a pity the dial isn‘t original; I‘d value it at ca. €6-800


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Vintage 1950s Chrono
PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 12:00 pm 
Offline
Breitling Newbie
Breitling Newbie

Joined: Sat May 05, 2018 9:44 am
Posts: 8
Likes: 0 post
Liked in: 0 post
Thank you for your help. Just for future reference, what were the strongest indicators for you to spot the redial, specific factors or rather the whole watch as such?


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Vintage 1950s Chrono
PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 2:44 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 22, 2007 6:43 pm
Posts: 3332
Likes: 116 posts
Liked in: 414 posts
Tom11 wrote:
Thank you for your help. Just for future reference, what were the strongest indicators for you to spot the redial, specific factors or rather the whole watch as such?


Breitling moved to Geneva in 1952 so Geneve wouldn't be on a watch that dates to 1946. That's the other problem I have with it. The style watch is indicative of a 1950's Breitling yet the serial number appears to date it to 1946. The pic is from the 1953 catalog.

Image


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Vintage 1950s Chrono
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 9:54 pm 
Offline
Breitling Newbie
Breitling Newbie

Joined: Sat May 05, 2018 9:44 am
Posts: 8
Likes: 0 post
Liked in: 0 post
Thanks a lot for your help, much appreciated. Still plenty to learn:)


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Vintage 1950s Chrono
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2018 12:07 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:36 pm
Posts: 14214
Likes: 1469 posts
Liked in: 1727 posts
Location: Vienna, Austria
assume typo in Paul's post above, pic is from the 1946 catalog.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Vintage 1950s Chrono
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2018 2:21 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 22, 2007 6:43 pm
Posts: 3332
Likes: 116 posts
Liked in: 414 posts
WatchFred wrote:
assume typo in Paul's post above, pic is from the 1946 catalog.


Got that from Richter, page 107. which says 1953 so it's an error?


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Vintage 1950s Chrono
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2018 2:54 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:36 pm
Posts: 14214
Likes: 1469 posts
Liked in: 1727 posts
Location: Vienna, Austria
yes, this is a page from the 1946 catalog, move to Geneva was 1953 btw.

Image


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Vintage 1950s Chrono
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2018 3:06 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 22, 2007 6:43 pm
Posts: 3332
Likes: 116 posts
Liked in: 414 posts
WatchFred wrote:
yes, this is a page from the 1946 catalog, move to Geneva was 1953 btw.


That would explain the serial number then. As for the date of the move I've always understood it was 1952 with Geneve on the dial starting in 1953.

http://breitlingsource.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=52791&view=next


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  

Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 20 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 8 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 40 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
 




Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group