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What impact do the new models have on your confidence in Breitling and their direction as a company
Poll ended at Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:22 am
1. I like where Breitling is going. 17%  17%  [ 18 ]
2. I dislike the direction Breitling is going. 57%  57%  [ 60 ]
3. I really do not have an opinion. 12%  12%  [ 13 ]
4. I do not see a direction shift by Breitling. 14%  14%  [ 15 ]
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sharkman wrote:

I've changed my mind! That IS one hot looking Omega.


That's an insult to Omega!!!

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I've changed my mind! That IS one hot looking Omega.


That's an insult to Omega!!!


Oh, come now Sergio, don't spit on Breitling that much.

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Sorry, but while I agree it looks better in this configuration than some of the other multi-coloured pieces, I think it's just an exercise in blandness now. To me it highlights how dependent on colour Breitling are now instead of relying on good design.

The simple fact that people are (quite rightly) saying it looks a bit Omega-like is another indication that Breitling is losing it's direction. When you see a current model Steelfish, or Avenger, etc, you know instantly that it's a Breitling. Binning the rider tabs and functional diver's bezel in favour of this nondescript offering just shows how their design ideas are going down the pan.

It's really sad to see.

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Am I the only one who finds it ironic that within 24 hours of Thomas pointing out the consistency of design cues in Breitling's current direction that it should be pointed out the similarity with Omega of that piece?


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Driver8 wrote:
The simple fact that people are (quite rightly) saying it looks a bit Omega-like is another indication that Breitling is losing it's direction.

Very true. And I'll admit that my earlier admission that I find the design a "respectable" offering (were it with a ceramic bezel) was based (subconsciously) on the fact that I have a general, but limited, fondness for Omegas. Now that Tom has pointed out the similarity, it's hard to look at the watch without thinking it's just a comedown for Breitling. I don't mean that as a bash against Omega; it's just that if I want an Omega, I'll get an Omega. Breitling should stay Breitling.

And yes, Roff, I too find it ironic.


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Tell me what similarities that watch has to an Omega? Aside from the chrono pushers THATS IT. That's not even remotely close to what a planet ocean looks like. The chrono layout is different, the date wheel is in a different spot, the bezel is totally different, the case is shapped much differently, the bracelet is much different, the dial (batons and numerals) are different. So what exactly do they have in common? The chrono pushers and crown??? I'd take a Planet Ocean everyday of the week ahead of the new CSO.

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To me it has an "air" of Omega to it. More so than an "air" of what I have come to know as Breitling. And that is not a knock on Omega, rather a question - what is it? True, it clearly is not a PO knock off, but it looks as though it would hunt in the same field.

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I agree that it's not the Breitling we've come to know...that's for sure.

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mfserge wrote:
Tell me what similarities that watch has to an Omega?

Obviously they're not carbon copies, Sergio, but I'm with Tom: the similarities are clear. Contrary to what Thomas was saying about Breitling's styling cues being dinstinctly, recognizably Breitling, this new design looks more to me like a number of other watches on the market.
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I'm sorry but you are way off base. The only two that look alike are the Speedmaster and Carrera. The Transocean some similarities to the Speedy and Tag but not the new CSO.

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I'm sorry but you are way off base. The only two that look alike are the Speedmaster and Carrera. The Transocean some similarities to the Speedy and Tag but not the new CSO.


:yeahthat

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I'm with you Sergio on this one.

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sharkman wrote:
To me it has an "air" of Omega to it. More so than an "air" of what I have come to know as Breitling. And that is not a knock on Omega, rather a question - what is it? True, it clearly is not a PO knock off, but it looks as though it would hunt in the same field.

:yeahthat - on all counts as it's certainly not knocking Omega to say that the new CSO has a whiff of Omega about it. Quite the reverse I'd say : Omega have developed a couple of iconic looks and is sticking to them. Breitling had some iconic looks and are now moving away from them.

I just think that if you took the wings logo off the dial, the new CSO wouldn't scream "Breitling" to anyone.

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mfserge wrote:
I'm sorry but you are way off base.

The TAG is clearly a blatant ripoff of the Speedmaster. I will also grant that if asked to pick the Breitling out of the lineup, I'd still pick the CSO. The question is one of resemblance. Evidently it's a subjective matter whether the new CSO resembles the PO or Speedy. Reasonable minds can differ, but more than one person here sees the resemblance. Phrased another way, I would say the new CSO is closer in looks to the PO and Speedy than was the old CSO; the new design has gone in a direction away from "iconic," toward generic.


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People, how much longer are we going to kick this dead horse. The market place will decide if the new path chosen is the correct way or the wrong way. If you don't like the styles of Breitling's new watches than don't buy them. I know of a few watches that I would not give house room but not once has any one from any of these companies contacted me to ask me why. I just think that bad mouthing any brand is silly when you can do far more by simply spending your dollar elsewhere.
Not trying to be the authority on any subject but I have 40 years of being in or running a family business and I have made some very good and some incredibly bad decisions. The customers let me know directly where it hurt, my wallet. I think this, "Adapt or die" says it all. I hope this does not insult anyone as it is not my intention to slam anyone. Just my .02.
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People, how much longer are we going to kick this dead horse. The market place will decide if the new path chosen is the correct way or the wrong way. If you don't like the styles of Breitling's new watches than don't buy them. I know of a few watches that I would not give house room but not once has any one from any of these companies contacted me to ask me why. I just think that bad mouthing any brand is silly when you can do far more by simply spending your dollar elsewhere.
Not trying to be the authority on any subject but I have 40 years of being in or running a family business and I have made some very good and some incredibly bad decisions. The customers let me know directly where it hurt, my wallet. I think this, "Adapt or die" says it all. I hope this does not insult anyone as it is not my intention to slam anyone. Just my .02.
Best health, Frank

Ah but there's PLENTY of mileage in this yet! :wink: :lol:

To be honest it's been like this here for the last 2 (or maybe even 3) Baselworlds when it's come to Breitling's new models. Models get analysed to death, and to be honest the last couple of years have left a lot of die-hard fans here pretty disappointed. I was extremely diasppointed the year the B01 came out, but now, while I'm more than happy to discuss the new models (and pan them if necessary!), it doesn't bother me. As you say, I just won't buy them..........., but that doesn't stop us from airing MULTIPLE opinions here though! :D All part of the fun.

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