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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:22 am 
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BREITLING-NAV ... 12e99#shId

date font and single digit orientation definitely wrong, but dial looks good ?
seller claims a 1987 production date for a watch introduced in 2003, located in Austria but excludes shipping to Austria and Germany.
so definitely fishy, but might be franken, not total fake ?


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I think that it's an inherently real watch that has been serviced / repaired by a non authorised centre resulting in a different date wheel and who knows what else.


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It's fake. Aside from the date wheel, the size, shape and position of date window is wrong.
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I'm puzzled by this one.

I'm not familiar with the small lume dots at 3/6/9 on any modern Navitimer. None of the replicas I've seen have them either.

So maybe it is from around 1987 but I'm only aware of 6/9/12 dials from this era.

Although the date looks a little sunken, the dial looks too good for a fake to me.

I can't be 100% so not reported although my gut feel would be fake.

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Fake.
Date font, chrono seconds hand logo, marks on the slide rule don't reach the rim.
If it is older model, it would have "SWISS MADE" on the dial.
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did not notice the chrono second hand, B logo definitely wrong too, thanks Bnewbie.

the date at 5 can definitely not be correct on a 1987 watch, the automatic movements just did not exist afaik, and the manual 7740 was long out of production, the Lemania 1873 had no date, the 7750 had the date at 3 with 6-9-12 subdials.

So no way this is 87, but a very interesting and quite good mid 2000s fake I would assume, quite a puzzler.

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Granted the dial is good quality, as are the bezel rim teeth, so this one confused me when I first saw it.

The telltales you guys have noticed are far too subtle for me. I still think the date font and position of the date widow are the real giveaways.

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bnewbie wrote:
Fake.
Good enough for me! :D

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Sharkmouth wrote:
bnewbie wrote:
Fake.
Good enough for me! :D


And good enough for Ebay - gone.

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