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Author:  Altair [ Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:56 pm ]
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Some very nice affordable options on the third day, The new Baume et Mercier with a blue dial is great!
https://www.baume-et-mercier.com/en/wat ... matic.html


I really love this one! My young nephew loves classical watches, and was taken with my Patek 5170P. This is going to make a great birthday gift for him next month when he turns 18:
https://cornichewatches.com/shop/chrono ... less_steel

Author:  WatchFred [ Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:32 am ]
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hearing that all the Bonbon RM are sold....

Author:  Altair [ Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:40 am ]
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Richard Mile is a genius. Produce a few pieces that get acknowledged by watch specialist, and the cater to drugged out, perpetually high celebrities. :lol: GENIUS :bow:


I would gladly do the same if I could, have you seen what he is charging for these things? I would even wear a bobon themes bikini to promote the line if I had to.

Author:  Driver8 [ Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:54 am ]
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Well at least RM has found a niche in the market : sure, it's a niche no-one else wants, but it's a niche nonetheless! :lol:

In all seriousness I have huge respect for their technical watchmaking skill and their use of materials. I just wish their designs were more palatable. (Although if they've sold all those Bonbons already, they must be doing something right for someone. :? )

Author:  WatchFred [ Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:59 am ]
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80% were pre-sold, the rest during the first SIHH day.

Author:  Altair [ Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:24 am ]
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WatchFred wrote:
80% were pre-sold, the rest during the first SIHH day.


wow. just wow.

RM must be laughing his ass off right now.

Author:  Altair [ Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:27 am ]
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Driver8 wrote:
In all seriousness I have huge respect for their technical watchmaking skill and their use of materials. I just wish their designs were more palatable.


They do have a few really good looking pieces, especially those in titanium with solid colored dials. And even some of the RG models. And the watchmaking and innovation are exceptional. Its just the absurdness that drives me away.

Same with UN, I was really excited about the new Freak, then they release a series depicting lesbian mermaids giving oral sex :oops: :| :?

I would love to see ze traditionalists at A Lange & Sohne reactiong to those watches. That would make an amazing realty show!

An example of a palatable RM:

https://monochrome-watches.com/hands-on ... -aerodyne/

Author:  Altair [ Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:24 pm ]
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I ran across this and had to share it:

https://monochrome-watches.com/rgm-watc ... iew-price/

I remember RGM back when it first started out. Its great to see the company has evolved to the level where they can produce such a handsome enamel dial watch with in house movement. I think the price is a bit high for what it is, but the exclusivity and the fact that its American for a change has a price.

I am sure many patriotic Americans who are looking to get something that reminds them when made in the USA meant something will support this company. I look forward to seeing how they do in the future.

Author:  Altair [ Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:10 pm ]
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So Piaget came up with a gorgeous new colour combo:

https://www.fratellowatches.com/piaget- ... h-line-up/

I was really taken by that, and the price was fair. It almost, almost, made me consider this as a guilty pleasure and pick it up. So I decided to do some research on the watch and see what the movement was all about and such. And came by this quote from the owner and lead designer:

“The entire Polo philosophy can be summed up in one sentence: it’s a watch bracelet rather than a mere wristwatch.” Yves G. Piaget


A "mere" wristwatch??!!

If ever there was a time to have a middle finger emoticon! Its one thing to try and forgive how heavily they copied Patek, but to demean a profession as old, noble, and complex as watchmaking in favor of fashion-first jewelry tendencies calls for an out right boycott! Anyone who considers himself a supporter of mechanical watchmaking as an art form would do well to steer clear from this group of idiots.

That quote really got me riled up!!!

Author:  56scooter [ Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:43 am ]
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Altair wrote:
I ran across this and had to share it:

https://monochrome-watches.com/rgm-watc ... iew-price/

I remember RGM back when it first started out. Its great to see the company has evolved to the level where they can produce such a handsome enamel dial watch with in house movement. I think the price is a bit high for what it is, but the exclusivity and the fact that its American for a change has a price.

I am sure many patriotic Americans who are looking to get something that reminds them when made in the USA meant something will support this company. I look forward to seeing how they do in the future.


While on road trip my wife took advantage of an opportunity to visit the RGM "factory" in Mount Joy, PA. Headquartered in a former bank, we were able to observe the actual production of some of the RGM watches. Roland Murphy himself took time out of his day to show us and explain the production processes involved in the watches that he offers for sale. It was a truly rewarding experience, the complete opposite of when you walk into some boutiques and the staff have little or no idea of what they are talking about! if anyone ever has the opportunity to visit I would strongly recommend that you do!

Author:  Altair [ Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:31 pm ]
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56scooter wrote:
Altair wrote:
I ran across this and had to share it:

https://monochrome-watches.com/rgm-watc ... iew-price/

I remember RGM back when it first started out. Its great to see the company has evolved to the level where they can produce such a handsome enamel dial watch with in house movement. I think the price is a bit high for what it is, but the exclusivity and the fact that its American for a change has a price.

I am sure many patriotic Americans who are looking to get something that reminds them when made in the USA meant something will support this company. I look forward to seeing how they do in the future.


While on road trip my wife took advantage of an opportunity to visit the RGM "factory" in Mount Joy, PA. Headquartered in a former bank, we were able to observe the actual production of some of the RGM watches. Roland Murphy himself took time out of his day to show us and explain the production processes involved in the watches that he offers for sale. It was a truly rewarding experience, the complete opposite of when you walk into some boutiques and the staff have little or no idea of what they are talking about! if anyone ever has the opportunity to visit I would strongly recommend that you do!



Sounds like a great trip! Good for you guys. I would definitely try that if I was in town, and I would very much like to meet Roland. He seems like a real pioneer and WIS, quite the accomplishment.

If I was American I would buy one of his watches immediately, the sense of pride of owning a piece of Horology made to such high standards from one's own country is worth it alone. I have been in Japan for business and was surprised at how many people there wore Seiko and Grand Seiko to business meetings, met quite a few WIS and although they had vast collections that included Swiss and German brands they took pride in Japanese workmanship and made it a point to wear them to meetings with foreign partners. I can definitely see why.

Its also a matter of supporting a new business, Roland seems to be all about classical watchmaking, and is trying to put the USA on the horological map, a WIS and a patriot, regardless of whichever country a man with values deserves praise and support. Good for him!

Author:  Driver8 [ Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:12 am ]
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Altair wrote:

I agree it's much better, but it's still a design I just can't warm to.

To be fair to RM, they have developed a very distinctive design language, which is ultimately what all watch brands aspire to - to be instantly recognisable (and desirable). Just ask Rolex! :wink:

If you like the designs, and can afford them, then RM are a fantastic brand as their technical skills and levels of finishing are incredible. Unfortunately (or is it fortunately!?) I fall at the first two hurdles in that last sentence! :lol:

Author:  Altair [ Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:49 am ]
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Driver8 wrote:
Altair wrote:

I agree it's much better, but it's still a design I just can't warm to.

To be fair to RM, they have developed a very distinctive design language, which is ultimately what all watch brands aspire to - to be instantly recognisable (and desirable). Just ask Rolex! :wink:

If you like the designs, and can afford them, then RM are a fantastic brand as their technical skills and levels of finishing are incredible. Unfortunately (or is it fortunately!?) I fall at the first two hurdles in that last sentence! :lol:


Agreed, personally though I have an additional requirement; I must respect the brand as a whole. Piaget and now RM have performed one to manny taboos as far as I am concerned,

Breitling where on the fence for a while there, but had many wins that kept them at the top of my list, its great to see what I saw as identity betrayal is now being phased out and replaced with such great models.

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