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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:55 am 
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Strange as it may sound when we're talking about the sums of money we are for this one.....but I think you made the right decision to pass on the WG version in lieu of the forthcoming (even more expensive) platinum version. If you want the ultimate then you have to wait for the ultimate version.




Unfortunately, I dont think I will be getting the ultimate version, if it does come out in platinum and with an enamel dial, it will probabely exceed what Breguet are charging for their Tourbillon and fusee watch that just came to my attention. No brainer there.



It is interesting how much interest Langes overengineering and uncompromising finishing ethos is getting, these ultra high end pieces are selling out. Its impossible to get one from an AD at retail right now.


Oh well, I will have to console myself with this Santos Skeleton I just recieved. It also has a one year waiting list, but I was lucky to ask for one just in time a canceled order had arrived. Of cource zero discount was achieved, to say this watch is popular is an understatement. Cartier has thousands of requests worldwide and can only produce so many without compromising the finishing quality. I did insist on complimentary extra straps, which will have to be ordered in. A few freebies where thrown in, which is always nice.


All in all, a fantastic piece and truth be told, a very good price actually. I expect Cartier to increase prices significantely next year to setle down the demand, similar to what Patek did with the Nautilus.

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Even the watch cushion was over engineered! Several pieces can be attached to serve different purposes and positions. Inside included watch case, box, stand-alone...

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I have to say, Cartier, having pretty much popularized the wrist watch and with their significant history and accomplishments in both haute histology and everyday watches, certainly deserve respect, despite the brands overall focus on jewelry. I absolutely love the Santos line especially, the rest of the collection I am not so keen on. The Santos, being the first aviators watch, has both street cred and exhibits what Cartier are masters at, shapes and skeletons.

The Triple Face is a truly amazing watch, the movement and finishing are exemplary, but what has always drew me to it was that it is Cartier’s beast. Their PloProf, the unreasonable piece that stands contrary to their usual lineup built to a purpose. Not unlike Langes Zeitwerk, which has a larger case and a very contemporary look, in opposition to their usual dedication to classic design. Being as limited as it is it does feel that much more special. I plan on keeping both, one as a casual watch, the other to perform office duty along side my Lange Annual Calendar for more casual days. What makes an exceptional daily watch is the diversity the new quick change system offers, Absolutely the very best strap system ever created, and I have owned all quick change systems from the major brands. Smooth, secure, with a wonderful balanced feel. A real joy to use. Cartier even went to the effort of designing an ingenious bracelet link removal system that can be operated without any tools. I watched as the salesman demonstrated how the bracelet can be modified in a second and then switched to a strap, all in under a minute. Well done Cartier!

The watch is not without fault though. The charm of this particular model is how simple and perfectly executed the whole thing is. The watch is the result of minimalist artists, free thinking engineers, and expert material finishers joining forces. The unaligned screws are unfortunately a significant blow to the overall execution. Yes, to engineer the screws so that they would perfectly fit into place on the bezel and bracelet would require quite a bit of work, and would raise the price by another thousand dollars probably, but I say if we are going to all this effort and cost that one extra step would be worth it. It truly would be a perfect time only skeleton watch. A shame, Cartier came so close!

Yes, I am nitpicking. But lets remember how much we are paying for these pieces, how many late nights did we have to put in to afford them?! I actually wrote an email, and now have printed it out and will deliver it to the boutique manager. I hope they address this in future iterations.

The freebies from Cartier are not bad, but they have to do better to keep up with Patek. I showed the manager pictures of what Patek did for me, and he got excited and promised to out do them, but asked for a few weeks to order a few things from Paris. I am looking forward to seeing what they come up with.

That said, the hand enameled tricket trey in porcelain is absolutely beautiful!!!

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First day with this mechanical wonder of a(n almost) perfectly made treasure. Absolutely smitten!

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I do like the slightly revised case shape. It looks a lot more dressy than it used to. Very nice piece.

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It's fantastic to see you back on the forum Altair; I've thoroughly enjoyed catching up on all your posts. Your collection and options are just phenomenal; good luck with all the decision making and congrats on your journey back to good health and a great life.

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Tim! Great to see you still on the forum buddy!

Thank you for the kind words. Man, good to see you still here!

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I'm still here albeit more of a reviewer these days than a poster. The forum has definitely livened up though over the past couple of months with the new releases and visits from some of the old crew. It's really good to see and I hope it continues.

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Tim S wrote:
I'm still here albeit more of a reviewer these days than a poster. The forum has definitely livened up though over the past couple of months with the new releases and visits from some of the old crew. It's really good to see and I hope it continues.

Great to see you're still about Tim! Another of the "old guard" returning to active service! The way this is going we'll have Roff back in no time! :wink:

(And thanks for posting on the project thread too...., although we appear to be fighting a general wave of apathy on that one at the moment. :? Still, it may pick up in time).

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Yes, but really want to do an amazing project this time. One to end all projects, a watch that will be coveted and envied by millions. Setting up a special trip to have something custom made. I am determined!

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Speaking of the Santos, the new blue dials look pretty nice. I'm anxious to see some live shots.

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Driver8 wrote:
Tim S wrote:
I'm still here albeit more of a reviewer these days than a poster. The forum has definitely livened up though over the past couple of months with the new releases and visits from some of the old crew. It's really good to see and I hope it continues.

Great to see you're still about Tim! Another of the "old guard" returning to active service! The way this is going we'll have Roff back in no time! :wink:

(And thanks for posting on the project thread too...., although we appear to be fighting a general wave of apathy on that one at the moment. :? Still, it may pick up in time).


I really do hope Roff stops by, even just to say hi and catch up. I always respected that man and was very fond of him.

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Driver8 wrote:
Tim S wrote:
I'm still here albeit more of a reviewer these days than a poster. The forum has definitely livened up though over the past couple of months with the new releases and visits from some of the old crew. It's really good to see and I hope it continues.

Great to see you're still about Tim! Another of the "old guard" returning to active service! The way this is going we'll have Roff back in no time! :wink:

(And thanks for posting on the project thread too...., although we appear to be fighting a general wave of apathy on that one at the moment. :? Still, it may pick up in time).

Great to see you too Driver and wouldn't it be great for Roff to drop back in on occasion! I've been in watch 'wilderness' for a couple of years and it's good to get excited again with the forum activity in addition to some of these new releases.

I was a little slow to see the Project but glad that Altair is on a mission. I'm hoping the apathy reverses as the project comes to light but I'm with you.

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Guys, I need your help! Please talk me out of this watch!

https://monochrome-watches.com/iwc-debu ... ic-straps/

I need another watch about as much as I need a knock on the head, but I just cant it out of my mind! I saw it at the AD when I picked up my two latest acquisitions and fell in love! I have been using my Omega PO for pool duty and the orange was my liveliest watch, gives me a sense of relaxed fun. But that IWC Yacht Club had such an elevated sense of elegance coupled with a whimsical vibe I found myself thinking how great it be at the pool, swimming, and with certain casual attire.

Do you think this is a temporary hit for IWC, bound to be forgotten as a gimmicky watch, or maybe a classic with impecable execution?

I have to say IWC did do a very nice job here, very crisp and lively yet lively and fun! I tried to wear the Omega today but it just seemed so tacky all of a sudden.


DAMMIT!

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Well, Altair, if it suits your taste, then you have your answer as far as that aspect is concerned.

As for me though -- and I'm sure there are differences of opinion on this point -- I would never get a watch for the purpose of swimming, snorkeling, water sports, etc. that didn't have at least 100m WR. The 60m WR on the IWC would be a deal breaker for me -- but, like I said, I'm sure that others have different views and experiences that might lead them to a different conclusion.

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