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Man.. Youtube is filled with wannabes that thing they know everything... but they don't. I posted that rolex video up on youtube.. and some guy is trying to convince me that Rolex uses ETA movements. And he's all trying to sound condescending.. which is so amusing because he doesn't know a thing.... a Watchmaker he claims to be??? Thank god he's not mine. Watchmakeress! He's embarassing your trade!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWVdW5jNdgg

Let's shoot him, or stab, whatever works best?!

Use a spoon to stab him, it will hurt like hell!!!

I think that dude's comments are inline with Folexes!

So you could say that he is talking Bolex

Sorry couldn't resist

Sherlock

That actually physically hurt

This is an interesting question. Most of the premium brands use movts made by ETA (certainly Breitling, Cartier, Omega with their own co-axial modification, Panerai - to name a few) or JLC and several others although some do now make their own movts. They buy them as kits (ebauches) and finish/assemble them to their own specification. They also have them certified as chronometers which ETA do not do.

Rolex are similar to most makers in that they manufacture relatively little of the whole watch. Case makers make the cases and dial makers make the dials etc so I wonder who actually does make their movts. When Rolex supplied the movts for the old vintage Panerai 3646 and 6152 watches (which I was very very fortunate to handle 4 of just last week on my holiday in Italy) they actually bought ebauches from Cortebert (who were mainly movts makers) and re-finished them to Panerai's specs.

There is one basic question:
When do we talk about a new movement or only an adaptation of a movement? For example the Scarfusio Destriero from IWC. It is based on a Valjoux 7750 as far as I know, but there has hardly any part been left original. Or the Co-axial movement from Omega, that Daniels has developed. Is it just an alteration of an ETA-movement or is it already a new movement?
There are not too many basic movement forms, that exist. Everyone used to use similar technologies and used to copy features from other movementproducers. On the other side, everyone, who just changes a few screws and wheels ist talking about a new movement and beeing a manufacture.
Very difficult to decide.

BG
Thomas

Hmmm.. Good discussions. I was under the impression that the Co-axial was a new movement but I did read somewhere that it is a modification of an ETA as well.

However, I was under the impression that Rolex did EVERYTHING in house... even casting their own stainless steel was done in house I had read... but hey I don't know for sure!