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Author:  Altair [ Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:30 am ]
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Has anyone seen the new Reverso with Bordeaux dial?

https://www.jaeger-lecoultre.com/us/en/ ... 7846J.html

What do we think about it? Does it strike someone else as.....feminine?


I can only imagine how that dial color and size will look on my gorilla wrists!

Author:  jnelson3097 [ Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:33 pm ]
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Altair wrote:
Has anyone seen the new Reverso with Bordeaux dial?

https://www.jaeger-lecoultre.com/us/en/ ... 7846J.html

What do we think about it? Does it strike someone else as.....feminine?


I can only imagine how that dial color and size will look on my gorilla wrists!


It's not my favorite, but I think it would better on a dark brown strap. The Rouge edition they had from a few years ago looks slightly better in my opinion.

https://www.govbergwatches.com/shop/pre ... -q2788565/

Author:  Moana43 [ Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:33 pm ]
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alex** wrote:
Moana43 wrote:
alex** wrote:
Iwc and bremont are poles apart. Iwc being significantly higher end than bremont.


Not at all — not when it comes to IWC’s low-end pilot watches.


agree to disagree, IWC may have some eta based stuff but their in house movements and level of complications puts them in a much higher category than Bremont


We're clearly talking about two different things. You're stuck on comparing IWC and Bremont as brands -- my comments have nothing to do with that. :wink:

Author:  Moana43 [ Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:42 pm ]
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Altair wrote:
Bremont will have to do some major changes if they want to attract a bigger portion of consumers, either introducing an entirely new lineup with much lower prices or investing in better movements and case finishing. Just my opinion at the end of the day.


Bremont still has some growing to do certainly. I don't own one, so I don't have a horse in the race. But, I will say, that for what they do, they are very nice pieces. The hardened steel cases are impressive and appropriate for a sport watch -- and, like Breitling, their ETA-based movements are all COSC-certified. As I mentioned before, their prices are very much in line with similar ETA-based pieces from IWC or Breitling. To each his own... :wink:

Author:  Driver8 [ Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:20 pm ]
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Altair wrote:
The problem with Bremont is that they have priced themselves out of the market. I have no idea how they are still in business! I remember passing by their boutique in London and it was chock full of watches with zero customers.

I totally agree with you Altair. I have a real problem with Bremont as I think they are one of those brands trying to sprint before they've even got out of the womb.

We all know that most luxury watches (especially those running ETA/Sellita based movements) are priced many MANY times higher than their component and construction costs, so (and let's be honest here) a lot of the time we are paying for the name on the dial, and the history (and/or lifestyle) associated with that name. Bremont have no history whatsoever having only been around since 2002, a catalogue full of (IMO) fairly ordinary designs, mostly running ETAs (modified to a greater or lesser degree)......., which is all ABSOLUTELY FINE for a brand just starting out. However, considering all the above, there is no doubt they are priced rather....errr.... "optimistically"!

Take, for example, their 1918 model in stainless steel. It runs their BE-16AE movement which is actually a modified Valjoux 7750, and is priced at £8,495. Really? £8,495?!?

Or the AIRCO MACH 3, a simple 3-hander on a leather strap that runs a modified ETA 2892, and is priced at £2,895.... or in other words £265 MORE than a Tudor Black Bay on a metal bracelet that runs the fully in-house MT5602 movement with 70 hours PR.

And then there was the scandal with the BWC/01 calibre, that was originally claimed by Bremont to be an in-house development, but was actually apparently predominantly designed by specialist Swiss watch movement manufacturer, La Joux-Perret.

If they were priced sensibly, and weren't so intent on trying to appear as something they're not (yet), then I wouldn't have a problem with them.

Author:  Moana43 [ Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:02 pm ]
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I had been focused on the latest Freak offering from UN, but had somehow neglected another interesting new offering: the Executive Skeleton X. Honestly, I'm kinda likin' these! Pictured below is the version in a carbonite/matte gold case, which I think is really intriguing. As a general matter, I like seeing the different approaches that various manufacturers are taking with regard to case materials and aesthetics these days. I think there may be some interesting developments in this area ahead.

In any event here's one version of the Executive Skeleton X...

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Author:  jnelson3097 [ Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Now that the dust has settled

Moana43 wrote:
I had been focused on the latest Freak offering from UN, but had somehow neglected another interesting new offering: the Executive Skeleton X. Honestly, I'm kinda likin' these! Pictured below is the version in a carbonite/matte gold case, which I think is really intriguing. As a general matter, I like seeing the different approaches that various manufacturers are taking with regard to case materials and aesthetics these days. I think there may be some interesting developments in this area ahead.

In any event here's one version of the Executive Skeleton X...



The version they show with the blue strap with the Carbonium case is by far the best looking version in my opinion.

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