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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:16 am 
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Hi Everyone

A little bit of side info I discovered whilst investigating the Transitional 1964 AVI covered here...
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We all know a reference 809 is typically a COSMONAUTE

But many of you will be aware of the 809s with NO-Cosmonaute text on the dial. Here are mine...

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I tend to refer to them as 24 Hour Navitimers but should we be calling them ASTRO-TIMERS

Here is a Wakmann Product Catalogue which features the rare 1963 Transitional 'Cosmonaute' (24 hour Navitimer) shown in my first picture above.
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Where it is referred to as an ASTRO-TIMER
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Just a thought but should/could we refer to these watches as an ASTRO-TIMER?

I appreciate that when you go into the finer details of 806s and 809s there are several Mks and variations but maybe this helps to differentiate a model name within the 809 range that was produced across quite a few years.

Look forward to hearing thoughts on this and if anyone has other examples of the term Astro-Timer being used...

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ehm.... no. there's enough confusion w/ the ref. 809 naming, as "Cosmonaute" was considerred to "communist" in the US during the cold war years, afaik. no "Astro-Timer" was ever built?


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WatchFred wrote:
ehm.... no. there's enough confusion w/ the ref. 809 naming, as "Cosmonaute" was considerred to "communist" in the US during the cold war years, afaik. no "Astro-Timer" was ever built?


Yes, i appreciate the confusion and that no watch actually features the Astro-Timer wording, though it does seem that this word is being used in the advertising and catalogues.

1962 sees the original Cosmonaute and No-Cosmonaute
Then only the No-Cosmonaute for 63/64 presumably around the time of the dislike for it’s closeness to the Russian word.
Though by 1965 we see Cosmonaute re-introduced and then used ever since
Whilst they still ran with the No-Cosmonaute into at least 67/68 and the new Twin Jet logo at the time.

So you have large chunks of time where both are being produced so Astro-Timer helps to differentiate.

Just a thought, though maybe more as a Nickname like with other pieces, saves saying
‘24 Hour Navitimer No-Cosmonaute’...


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1962 also had a cosmonaute without reference to navitimer (on the dial)

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