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Author:  TheBadBaron [ Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Is this Chronomat 217012 original?

I'm interested in buying this watch and wanted to know if all (or any) of the parts are original. To follow that question up, how difficult would it be to replace the bezel and slide rule?

Thanks!

Author:  WatchFred [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:13 am ]
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hands incorrect for this dial generation, replacement bezels are very, very rare

Author:  TheBadBaron [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:05 am ]
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WatchFred wrote:
hands incorrect for this dial generation, replacement bezels are very, very rare


Should they be the syringe hands? The movement looks good?




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Author:  davedc74 [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:51 am ]
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It’s a bon-lined dial so should be white stick hands.

Author:  TheBadBaron [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:55 am ]
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It was described to be in working condition, including the chronograph. Do y'all think this is a good investment at just under $1k? Or will it be a money pit for restoration? I was planing to restore original/correct parts and keep the watch but can't afford to spend another 1k in restoration.

Author:  davedc74 [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:58 am ]
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as said above, you will spend a lot of time and money finding a bezel and insert for this. It is not a great way to spend your time and efforts IMHO.

Author:  TheBadBaron [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:08 am ]
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davedc74 wrote:
as said above, you will spend a lot of time and money finding a bezel and insert for this. It is not a great way to spend your time and efforts IMHO.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-37MM-BREI ... 1438.l2649

I think I can have all the parts for a grand total of ~$1300

I guess what I'm really asking is, which parts would need to be replaced to have it be original (aside from the bezel)? Is it just the hour and minute hands or all of them? This variation seems to be less common and relatively early, I'm having a hard time finding images of an exact match. With the white painted numeral dial, I've seen...

White and red sub-dial hands with different minute/hour hands (image 1)
or
All white stick hands (image 2)

None of which are on the earlier "no arrow between 5 and 6" dial. I'm confused.

Author:  WatchFred [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:39 am ]
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script logo lume dials have dagger (evry early, pre 5xx.xxx typically), syringe (most) or candlestick (late) hands.
non-lume dials have baton hands.
and please do not forget the sliderule insert, almost impossible to find, refinished examples available are horrific

Author:  TheBadBaron [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:24 pm ]
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Thanks again Fred!

Anyone know the ballpark value of a 769 bezel?


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Author:  Waynepjr1 [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:31 pm ]
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I am getting a feeling that you are either hard headed or not getting it. If you can find the correct bezel it will take FOREVER and possibly cost more than the $900 the watch sold for.... If you did in fact buy it, it's going to be a longggggggggggg project to complete if you don't already have the parts in hand!!!!!!

Author:  TheBadBaron [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:23 pm ]
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Waynepjr1 wrote:
I am getting a feeling that you are either hard headed or not getting it. If you can find the correct bezel it will take FOREVER and possibly cost more than the $900 the watch sold for.... If you did in fact buy it, it's going to be a longggggggggggg project to complete if you don't already have the parts in hand!!!!!!


I'm hard headed. I couldn't help myself, in it for the long haul I suppose. Please PM me if anyone has any of these parts for sale.

Author:  Waynepjr1 [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:47 pm ]
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We all here are just trying to help. Most if not all of us have made some buys we wished later we hadn't and we just like to try to pass on advice to others in hopes they don't do the same.
Anyone with parts for these typically don't sell them!!! Like giving away a kidney!!

Author:  TheBadBaron [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:23 pm ]
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Waynepjr1 wrote:
We all here are just trying to help. Most if not all of us have made some buys we wished later we hadn't and we just like to try to pass on advice to others in hopes they don't do the same.
Anyone with parts for these typically don't sell them!!! Like giving away a kidney!!


I totally get it and definitely appreciate the sage advice. Truth be told I bought the watch after hearing that the dial, case and movement were correct. I'm not in any sort of rush to piece this thing together and realize that I may ultimately end up punting it. It was an impulse buy because I simply love early vintage chronos.


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Author:  TheBadBaron [ Mon Feb 19, 2018 3:23 pm ]
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You were right about the donor. That one from eBay sold for $959. I might have shot myself in the foot by posting it here


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Author:  Waynepjr1 [ Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:09 pm ]
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I was stunned it sold for that much but if someone needs it they will pay the price!

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