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Author:  ronniewatch [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:47 am ]
Post subject:  1958 SUPEROCEAN
I have recently sent a 1958 superocean to breitling in switzerland for restoration,they have come back a askd me to sell it to them fot there museum and offered a chronomat 41 for payment,is this a fair deal, and has anyone else had a similar offer, i have not seen any for sale so i cant compare value,any help welcome,ronniewatch
Author:  CH-dmath [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 1958 SUPEROCEAN
Welcome to the BreitlingSource. It must be kind of cool knowing that Breitling wants your watch. I can't comment on whether a Chronomat 41 is a fair payment - there are too many unknowns. Does your watch have a lot of sentimental value? What condition is it in? (I encourage you to post some photos so that those with more knowledge than I can have a look and give their opinions.) Do you like the Chronomat 41?

If it were me, I'd use their offer as a starting point. Have a look at the Breitling website to see if there's another watch that you prefer to the Chronomat 41. Maybe a lifetime pass to the museum as well. 8)
Author:  Twotone540 [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 1958 SUPEROCEAN
:welcome: :welcome: Congrats on the watch...In the next week you will receive some good advice..So stay tuned....
take notes....Good luck.. :lingsrock:
Author:  Dracha [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 1958 SUPEROCEAN
the chrono or non-chrono version ?
do you have some pics of the watch you sent to them ?
Author:  ronniewatch [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 1958 SUPEROCEAN
Dracha wrote:
the chrono or non-chrono version ?
do you have some pics of the watch you sent to them ?

sorry no pics,its the non chrono version ,missing bezel,glass broken,but movement ok
Author:  Roffensian [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 1958 SUPEROCEAN
Let's move this to the vintage section as you'll get better answers on value of the piece there, but as Dracha says we need a little more information to be able to give a good assessment.
Author:  ronniewatch [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 1958 SUPEROCEAN
Roffensian wrote:
Let's move this to the vintage section as you'll get better answers on value of the piece there, but as Dracha says we need a little more information to be able to give a good assessment.

mnay thanks,the dial is in great shape,not refinished
Author:  Roffensian [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 1958 SUPEROCEAN
Well it's a bit of a guess with what we have to go on, but personally I wouldn't do it, but that's because I am not a fan of the Chronomat 41. Also, if that's their first offer, how far are they prepared to go???
Author:  ronniewatch [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 1958 SUPEROCEAN
Roffensian wrote:
Well it's a bit of a guess with what we have to go on, but personally I wouldn't do it, but that's because I am not a fan of the Chronomat 41. Also, if that's their first offer, how far are they prepared to go???

they have quoted £1,300 to complete the repairs and restoration,which model would you go for?
Author:  WatchFred [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 1958 SUPEROCEAN
have it repaired and returned, if the repair includes a new bezel this is quite decent,
but PLEASE make sure they do not replace the hands, happened with a piece Rene (dracha) posted.

any of the current Lings is easily replacable, a nice 1004 w/ mint dial, respectfully restored -
this a a really rare and special piece.
Author:  ronniewatch [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 1958 SUPEROCEAN
WatchFred wrote:
have it repaired and returned, if the repair includes a new bezel this is quite decent,
but PLEASE make sure they do not replace the hands, happened with a piece Rene (dracha) posted.

any of the current Lings is easily replacable, a nice 1004 w/ mint dial, respectfully restored -
this a a really rare and special piece.

unfortunatly i will have to sell it,have any idea of its value,ball park''
Author:  Roffensian [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 1958 SUPEROCEAN
If you are going to sell it anyway then spending money for Breitling to restore it may not be the best bet - they'll charge a lot more than it's necessary to pay and you'll never get that back. In that circumstance the offer from Breitlign might make more sense, although presumably it also means that you will end up selling the new piece and losing a ton on that as well.
Author:  Dracha [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 1958 SUPEROCEAN
if you sell it anyway DONT GET IT RESTORED !!! just have it serviced but make sure they keep the original parts with the watch , which I doubt they will do

any changes to the watch will diminish value enormously

ronniewatch wrote:
sorry no pics,its the non chrono version ,missing bezel,glass broken,but movement ok


make sure they have the original bezel , I doubt they have
Author:  ronniewatch [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 1958 SUPEROCEAN
Dracha wrote:
if you sell it anyway DONT GET IT RESTORED !!! just have it serviced but make sure they keep the original parts with the watch , which I doubt they will do

any changes to the watch will diminish value enormously

ronniewatch wrote:
sorry no pics,its the non chrono version ,missing bezel,glass broken,but movement ok


make sure they have the original bezel , I doubt they have

the problem is it is unuseable without the work done on it and the bezel is near imposible to find,this is why i sent it to ling,as the uk service centre said they could not do it they sent it to switzerland,
Author:  Roffensian [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 1958 SUPEROCEAN
ronniewatch wrote:
Dracha wrote:
if you sell it anyway DONT GET IT RESTORED !!! just have it serviced but make sure they keep the original parts with the watch , which I doubt they will do

any changes to the watch will diminish value enormously

ronniewatch wrote:
sorry no pics,its the non chrono version ,missing bezel,glass broken,but movement ok


make sure they have the original bezel , I doubt they have

the problem is it is unuseable without the work done on it and the bezel is near imposible to find,this is why i sent it to ling,as the uk service centre said they could not do it they sent it to switzerland,



Yes, but other independents are more likely to be able to source the bezel than Breitling are. It's a totally different comapny from the Breitling of 1958 and they don't have access to parts.
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