My Chrono-matic is marked 2110-15. The serial number is from 1969. Could Breitling have used cases from 1969?
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| Author: | breitlingmuseum [ Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:57 am ] |
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The Chrono-matic with calibre 15 was made as ref. 2110-15 , 2111-15 and 2112-15, edit excuse, also 2111-15 |
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| Author: | Yaffle [ Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:15 am ] |
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OK. I think I've got my head around this. Is everyone saying that even though most of these cases date earlier than 72 but the movement didn't exist until then, it's still legit? |
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| Author: | Roffensian [ Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:16 am ] |
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Yaffle wrote: OK. I think I've got my head around this. Is everyone saying that even though most of these cases date earlier than 72 but the movement didn't exist until then, it's still legit? It's definitely legitimate, subject to the replaced balance. |
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| Author: | chronomania [ Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:08 pm ] |
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My Chrono-matic is marked 2110-15. The serial number is from 1969. Could Breitling have used cases from 1969?
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| Author: | Roffensian [ Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:56 pm ] |
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Breitling definitely used casebacks (and cases) from the parts bin. Is your movement a 12 or a 15? |
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| Author: | chronomania [ Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:09 pm ] |
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It's a calibre 15 |
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| Author: | Roffensian [ Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:25 pm ] |
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Likely just an older caseback then. |
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| Author: | breitlingmuseum [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:55 am ] |
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A statement of Breitling SA from 1. Decembre 1972, found in www.navitimer net It is interesting that Breitling dont speak about the calibre 15 till this date. Quote: Differences between Caliber 11 and Caliber
12 DIFFERENCES BETWEEN CALS. 11, 11-C, 11-2 AND 12 CAL. 11 Original basic calibre, 19,800 train (nickel plated) CAL. 11-C As Cal.11 but we have changed the arrangement of the calendar. Rapid calendar replacement by a slow calendar. For that, we have changed the calendar wheel No.2556/1 and omitted the two wheels Nos.2543 and 2548. The mainspring and escapement have been checked and rectified. Cal. 11-2 This is Cal. 11-c altered to 21,600 train. For that we have changed the mainspring:- MgS = 1200, Mgi = 1050, M - 3.5 = 860 at 8 turns of winding. We have also changed the fourth wheel No.225 (72 teeth instead of 66), The escape wheel No 705 (diam. of pinion 0.67 instead of 0.73) and the frequency of the balance and hairspring No. 721. Cal .12 Same construction as Cal. 11-2 except that the brass parts are gold plated instead of nickel plated. (Plates, bridges, chronograph plate, etc.) La Chaux-de-Fonds December 1st 1972 G.L. Breitling S.A G Monnier. |
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| Author: | Yaffle [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:48 am ] |
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Having done some snooping about online, all of the ones I saw with Cal 15 and the case marked "XXXX - 15" dated earlier than 1972. Hardly scientific I realise, it would be interesting to see the dates of any others out there. Especially ones dated 72 or later. |
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| Author: | jlee5050 [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:30 am ] |
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very very interesting... thanks to all~! that dial though... wouldn't be salvageable though huh? |
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| Author: | Roffensian [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:50 am ] |
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jlee5050 wrote: very very interesting... thanks to all~! that dial though... wouldn't be salvageable though huh? Craig is a better person to answer. If it's just dirt then it will likely clean up fairly well. If it's actually damaged then it's going to be a lot harder to restore (and can be expensive). |
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| Author: | chronomania [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:22 pm ] |
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I believe if you wait, you will find a nicer example. The movement doesn't look too clean and the caseback has some pitting due to corrosion. The dial has some discoloration as well. |
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| Author: | Roffensian [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:07 pm ] |
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There are definitely better ones out there, but of course they will be priced to reflect that. |
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| Author: | jlee5050 [ Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:41 pm ] |
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Reviving the thread...but found this one... http://cgi.ebay.com/BREITLING-Chrono-Ma ... 3ca8333f93 the overall condition is better on this one but TOO BAD the hands aren't original...  Why is it so hard to find one in a good condition?
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| Author: | breitlingmuseum [ Wed Dec 09, 2009 12:27 am ] |
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I have 7 pieces in good condition for sale |
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