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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:01 pm 
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Hi there,

I'm another non-expert coming here to ask for any input about the authenticity of a watch I have. Please forgive me if it is an obvious fake or something. The photos I took were too big to post here, so I put them on Imgur: https://imgur.com/a/vaB7QKn (if you want me to make lower quality ones to post here directly then I can do that)

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- I don't think the strap is original so I didn't take photos of it
- The hands and face are illuminated with superluminova or similar, not tritium. I have read that sometimes people have this applied after the tritium has decayed. Is that true and/or common? Or is this a obvious sign of a replica? Also, the illumination is a lot weaker than a modern Seiko watch I have after being exposed to the same light.
- The screen doesn't feel like glass or crystal.

Thanks so much for taking the time to read this! I'd really appreciate any feedback. I can take more photos if that would be helpful.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:07 pm 
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What is fine, straps are not important... nice example.

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Wayne you missed something — the caseback is from an 806...so not completely correct I fear.



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davedc74 wrote:
Wayne you missed something — the caseback is from an 806...so not completely correct I fear.

Ah, what should the caseback be?


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809 if it’s a cosmonaute. Can you confirm it has a 24 hour movement?


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davedc74 wrote:
809 if it’s a cosmonaute. Can you confirm it has a 24 hour movement?

Ah okay. Yeah, I can confirm it actually has a 24 hour movement.


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Although there is insufficient clarity in the photos, the lugs look like they are missing the sharp edges, so likely the watch has been polished/re-brushed at some point...although not badly. Dial looks clean and the crystal is made of plexiglass, hence why it doesn’t feel like glass.


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Thanks everyone for the info! I tried to get a better photo of the lugs but I had trouble due to my camera and the lighting.


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The bezel looks like a SMEB, which I don’t think was available on the 809.


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darkstar_xiii wrote:
The bezel looks like a SMEB, which I don’t think was available on the 809.


It was indeed.

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Kurt B wrote:
darkstar_xiii wrote:
The bezel looks like a SMEB, which I don’t think was available on the 809.


It was indeed.

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Funnily enough, I came to the conclusion that the SMEB wasn't available on the 809 based upon info from your Navitimer timeline.


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darkstar_xiii wrote:
Kurt B wrote:
darkstar_xiii wrote:
The bezel looks like a SMEB, which I don’t think was available on the 809.


It was indeed.

Kurt B http://www.kurt-b.com


Funnily enough, I came to the conclusion that the SMEB wasn't available on the 809 based upon info from your Navitimer timeline.


I have one on a 1965 serial so that's restriction to 1964 isn't precisely correct either. I think I recall Kurt saying he was going to update the timeline and knowledge base as he's learned and discovered more since his original publication.


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darkstar_xiii wrote:
Kurt B wrote:
darkstar_xiii wrote:
The bezel looks like a SMEB, which I don’t think was available on the 809.


It was indeed.

Kurt B http://www.kurt-b.com


Funnily enough, I came to the conclusion that the SMEB wasn't available on the 809 based upon info from your Navitimer timeline.


That is a correct observation. My timeline is constantly being worked on to improve it, and it’s not long ago I realized that there was SMEB 809’s.

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Much to be learned (and appreciated) from these discussions of authenticity, especially when the details of the ‘whys’ are elaborated on.
Forgive my lack of knowledge though. What is SMEB ? I can only come up with “small beaded edge bezel” ... but pretty sure that’s not correct.


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waterproofpt wrote:
Much to be learned (and appreciated) from these discussions of authenticity, especially when the details of the ‘whys’ are elaborated on.
Forgive my lack of knowledge though. What is SMEB ? I can only come up with “small beaded edge bezel” ... but pretty sure that’s not correct.


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