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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:18 am 
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Please see below posts by MarkJnk and bnewbie. I am not deleting this right now to give Natural Composer a chance to comment, but please be completely informed.



AND NOW DELETED BY ROFF AFTER FURTHER INFO

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:49 am 
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Scammer in the house folks!!

My good friend and Moderator on WUS has finally confirmed what I suspected all along...

http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t= ... sg_4245487

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Ah, that's Giuseppe.
We pulled his Evo and AS from TZ, twice.


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It's going to an invalid link. What's the story guys?

:guns: scammer!

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In2Deep wrote:
It's going to an invalid link. What's the story guys?

:guns: scammer!


TZ have deleted the thread.

Below is quote from "cuckoo4watches" on TZ.

"SCAMMER!!!

using all sorts of other peoples IDs!!!

BUYERS BEWARE!

he stole some pics from the REAL Elshan Tang elshan_tang@hotmail.com

also going by the user name Guiseppe Fazeio

I busted this guy BIG TIME and he couldnt come back with a good response.
actually had the balls to say that Elshan stole his pics.
haha

his emails are...
Guiseppe Fazeio [puretime@usa.com]
Elshan Tang [elshan.dae@gmail.com]"


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guys,
I am new on here but not on TZ and surely not WUS where I am a Moderator.

I have been in touch with Guiseppe Fazeio for over a week in regards to a Skyland he was selling.
at the time he was also selling an EVO and a Super Avenger.

prices seemed way too good to be true so I kept pressing hard.

sure enough, after several emails I received the pics I requested but there was an issue...
the pictured contained a piece of paper with a different user name 'Elshan Tang'.
in the email there was an apology that he was sorry he never told me that his name was
anything other than Guiseppe which he elaborated and said that was his grandfathers name
and the business name he goes by.
Come on... how does an Asian guy have an Italian grandfather??? (FIRST SIGN OF FRAUD)

so, being the OCD Anal-Neurotic that I am (and Mark, you are just like me) I looked around on TZ a bit
as I thought I had seen a blue dial Skyland on there for sale.
Sure enough there was one and guess who was selling it?
the REAL Elshan Tang (elshan_tang@hotmail.com)

I emailed Guiseppe (or whatever that a-hole's name is) and asked him to explain.
He had the audacity to say that Elshan stole his pics and used his name. LMAO

I emailed the real Elshan Tang all of this info too so that he could keep his good name and cover his
butt had anyone tried to call him out on it.

bottom line, Guiseppe Fazeio, 'fake' Elshan or CJS or whoever the heck it is is a total fraud and
is trying to scam people.

the current emails that i have for this c*cksucker (can I put that here?) are...
Guiseppe Fazeio (puretime@usa.com)
'fake' Elshan (elshan.dae@gmail.com)
CJS / Natural Composer (o8AMG... something, sorry can't remember)


that which corroborated EVERYTHING was his cell phone number which he made the mistake of giving
me and of posting to the CJS post.

that number is 480-371-6357

hope this helps guys.

all the best,
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:10 pm 
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cuckoo4watches wrote:
guys,
I am new on here but not on TZ and surely not WUS where I am a Moderator.

I have been in touch with Guiseppe Fazeio for over a week in regards to a Skyland he was selling.
at the time he was also selling an EVO and a Super Avenger.

prices seemed way too good to be true so I kept pressing hard.

sure enough, after several emails I received the pics I requested but there was an issue...
the pictured contained a piece of paper with a different user name 'Elshan Tang'.
in the email there was an apology that he was sorry he never told me that his name was
anything other than Guiseppe which he elaborated and said that was his grandfathers name
and the business name he goes by.
Come on... how does an Asian guy have an Italian grandfather??? (FIRST SIGN OF FRAUD)

so, being the OCD Anal-Neurotic that I am (and Mark, you are just like me) I looked around on TZ a bit
as I thought I had seen a blue dial Skyland on there for sale.
Sure enough there was one and guess who was selling it?
the REAL Elshan Tang (elshan_tang@hotmail.com)

I emailed Guiseppe (or whatever that a-hole's name is) and asked him to explain.
He had the audacity to say that Elshan stole his pics and used his name. LMAO

I emailed the real Elshan Tang all of this info too so that he could keep his good name and cover his
butt had anyone tried to call him out on it.

bottom line, Guiseppe Fazeio, 'fake' Elshan or CJS or whoever the heck it is is a total fraud and
is trying to scam people.

the current emails that i have for this c*cksucker (can I put that here?) are...
Guiseppe Fazeio (puretime@usa.com)
'fake' Elshan (elshan.dae@gmail.com)
CJS / Natural Composer (o8AMG... something, sorry can't remember)


that which corroborated EVERYTHING was his cell phone number which he made the mistake of giving
me and of posting to the CJS post.

that number is 480-371-6357

hope this helps guys.

all the best,
Steven


Thanks Steven - appreciate it. Further edit of original post coming in just a second.......


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Yes, thanks Steven! I'm going to rename this thread and move it to Feedback.

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WOW, the nerve of him... hey 480 is an Arizona area code, anyone want to pay him a more "personal" visit? :twisted:


In the meanwhile :banhim: :banhim: :banhim:

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In2Deep wrote:
WOW, the nerve of him... hey 480 is an Arizona area code, anyone want to pay him a more "personal" visit? :twisted:


In the meanwhile :banhim: :banhim: :banhim:


He was covering his tracks really well under the CJS name until he posted his phone number... good eye Steve, you saved somebody alot of money. On the TZ post he even posted his website which was music related, which again made his NaturalComposer handle believable. You have to be really careful with these guys.

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cuckoo4watches wrote:
guys,
I am new on here but not on TZ and surely not WUS where I am a Moderator.



Ok Steve, now that I finally got you to register here... make yourself comfortable and enjoy the Breitling vibe. Since you are shopping for your 4th or 5th 'ling... you should feel right at home.

Welcome.

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I could ask one of my very large friends to visit him. Address?

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In2Deep wrote:
WOW, the nerve of him... hey 480 is an Arizona area code, anyone want to pay him a more "personal" visit? :twisted:


In the meanwhile :banhim: :banhim: :banhim:



What a dirt bag.....I thought something was odd with this guys asking prices. I do live in this area code and I might be able to arrange for my good friend and all his mixed martial art training buddies to schedule an impromptu to sparing match? :twisted: They are the kind of dudes that are just waiting for someone to give them a reason, if you know what I mean? :wink:

Good looking out guys, and glad everyone foiled this scum bags scam.

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glad i could help out guys.
in the least hopefully it exposes him well enough that everyone
else can see thru his scams should he try again with another ID.

as for the number thats all i got.
no info on it other than its an Arizona area code.

he told me he had a business where he goes back and forth between Phoenix and Pittsburgh.
true? not sure

someone could try to call it and play dumb and say they had seen his post with his contact
number and that they wanted to meet him to see the watch(es)?!

maybe a nice meet and greet for a fellow member that lives in those parts.

If I did, and I went, I'd have to beat him with the SA since its so heavy... sorta like a billy club. haha

and Mark, yeah, not sure why I never joined here before but now that I have I'll be doing some searching.

best,
Steven

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Hey guys, just wanted to provide a little more info here.

As a Mod I have access to some other information so I can tell you that NaturalComposer has been to BreitlingSource since this all happened yesterday, and obviously has chosen not to comment.

I can also see where users are posting from, and Natural Composer has posted from 5 different IPs. Now IP addresses are often assigned by IP providers so if multiple users have the same IP address it doesn't necessarily mean that someone is using multiple user IDs. However, 3 of the 5 IPs are only used by NaturalComposer, the other two have another user using the same IP - and it's the same user from both IPs, for multiple posts each.

I can't prove that it's the same person, so I'm not going to post the username, but I have noted it and will be watching any sales threads from that user extremely carefully. I will also check the IPs regularly just in case another new username comes up.

In the meantime, the same rules apply - buy the seller and while the vast majority of new users selling watches are totally legit let's be aware that not everyone on the planet is completely honest!


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