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Author:  msugarman [ Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Need help authenticating 806 AOPA & 2110 CHRONOMATIC

Hi all,
I was hoping the navi & chronomatic experts could help me identify the authenticity of this navi 806 I saw in this vintage dealer today in W 57Th st in Manhattan. Im concerned because of a few things; First, this NYC dealer, to me, just seems a bit shady. They used to have a storefront a block away, closer to 5th ave., closed down and recently opened up in this new location, under a new name a block away. In the store's previous incarnation, they didnt have many good reviews on yelp. The 806 offered for sale is gold but I cant place the date. My brief research leads me to believe that its from the 60s but I question the watch dial itself - it doesnt have the box around the 10 as this one: [url]shorturl.at/hFHMR[/url] - nor does it same hands as this one http://shorturl.at/DLR46 (not to say that this is link is correct either). I dont have the serial number nor I havent seen it opened up.
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to view all photos go here: https://imgur.com/a/4m9z9a0

The second is a chronomatic 2110 surfboard dial. The serial number seems to be correct for the watch as dating it to 1969 but the hands, chrono hand & sub-dials don't seem to be correct, again according to my online research from bjmcfp1's photo http://shorturl.at/cmxES. In the ****** article about the chronomatics, they only show examples of the surfboard dial in the square/cushion case, not the pizza case.
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to view all photos go here https://imgur.com/a/HWe5Ovn

Im sort of a novice at buying vintage from unknown sources and for the amount of money we're talking about, it scares the heck out of me.
Thanks in advance
Mark

Author:  WatchFred [ Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help authenticating 806 AOPA & 2110 CHRONOMATIC

Navitimer is fine, ca. 1966
2110 is all wrong - hands incorrect and surfboard dials came on the 2111 only.

Author:  msugarman [ Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help authenticating 806 AOPA & 2110 CHRONOMATIC

Thank you so much for your input. Really appreciated. If I go forward with the Navi, once opened up, anything specific I should look out for?


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Author:  WatchFred [ Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help authenticating 806 AOPA & 2110 CHRONOMATIC

watch looks untouched, so no big worries.
post a movement pic for verification all is correct if u want - and the serial inside the caseback if u want to date it.

Author:  msugarman [ Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help authenticating 806 AOPA & 2110 CHRONOMATIC

WatchFred wrote:
watch looks untouched, so no big worries.
post a movement pic for verification all is correct if u want - and the serial inside the caseback if u want to date it.

Again, Thanks for all the help. Really appreciate it.

Author:  msugarman [ Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help authenticating 806 AOPA & 2110 CHRONOMATIC

Hi @watchfred
I finally got a chance to have the Navi 806 up & photograph it. I couldn’t seem to get a clear inside case back photo though. I did notice the regulator index seems to be missing & im a bit concerned about the different/inconsistent finishing of the parts. Please let me know what you think.
Thanks in advance, Mark
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Author:  WatchFred [ Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help authenticating 806 AOPA & 2110 CHRONOMATIC

all correct, markings fine. serial not readable, but sure 65/66

Author:  msugarman [ Fri Jun 28, 2019 8:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help authenticating 806 AOPA & 2110 CHRONOMATIC

WatchFred wrote:
all correct, markings fine. serial not readable, but sure 65/66


Again, Thank you so much. All your help is greatly appreciated

Author:  buddman [ Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help authenticating 806 AOPA & 2110 CHRONOMATIC

Dont pay over the odds. Gold-plate sells for quite a lot less than steel.

Author:  msugarman [ Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help authenticating 806 AOPA & 2110 CHRONOMATIC

buddman wrote:
Dont pay over the odds. Gold-plate sells for quite a lot less than steel.

Thanks for the heads up. Appreciated


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