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 Post subject: Cosmonaute
PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:23 am 
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Hi all,

This looks like a grab if correct?
I just can't believe the price.

What do you think? Correct in all details?



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:38 am 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:40 am 
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Thanx fred! It is even negotiable for the lucky one ;)


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Looks a beauty. Move quick or someone will get it first.


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Looks a beauty. Move quick or someone will get it first!


If i did not have, i would definitely go for this one.
Mine is an AOPA also in mint condition ,though the price really tempting.
I still can't believe it's for real ;)


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:07 am 
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Can't let this one go. Messaged the seller, now let's wait and see if it's meant for me


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why did you take out the info/link ?

if you continue to do that I wont supply any info anymore as it damages the forum and knowledge base

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why did you take out the info/link ?

if you continue to do that I wont supply any info anymore as it damages the forum and knowledge base


There was nothing special. Just thought maybe i do not get the chance to buy it.
Anyway here you go:

https://www.chrono24.com/nl/breitling/c ... gn=sharing


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Mortys wrote:
Last edited by Mortys on Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:05 pm, edited 1 time in total.


why did you take out the info/link ?

if you continue to do that I wont supply any info anymore as it damages the forum and knowledge base


There was nothing special. Just thought maybe i do not get the chance to buy it.
Anyway here you go:

https://www.chrono24.com/nl/breitling/c ... gn=sharing


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I'm absolutely no expert when it comes to GP versions, but judged as a SS I wouldn't touch it.

It says "Swiss Made T" in the bottom, and the lume is definitely not Tritium, the bezel is imo not correct, it looks like a machined replacement one (see below), and the pushers doesn't look correct either.

Subdial hands are not correct, they belong to a Navitimer with large subdials.

On top of that it's a Valjoux 7736 mvt, which basically is ok, but far from a Venus 178 in terms of collectability & value.

A lot of things are not right according to the book, but still a nice looking piece, that will tell the time as good as any other watch.


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 Post subject: Re: Cosmonaute
PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:21 am 
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Thank you Kurt for the info.

Your comment make things complicated, as Fred says that the watch is "Perfectly Correct".

Who's correct?

What about this one: looks exactly the same but in stainless steel
https://www.watchpool24.com/en/30733773 ... /nos/steel


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Which book do you mean Kurt bytheway?


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have seen several of these very late 7736 Cosmonautes, all have this strange bezel, note the lugs are also very different from the 178s


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Mortys wrote:
Thank you Kurt for the info.

Your comment make things complicated, as Fred says that the watch is "Perfectly Correct".

Who's correct?

What about this one: looks exactly the same but in stainless steel
https://www.watchpool24.com/en/30733773 ... /nos/steel



That watch has exactly the same "issues", buying vintage watches is very much about using your common sense, and when 2 watches pops up at the same time with same "issues" it turns a red light on for me.

"the book" is a saying we use, but if I was you, I would use me as a reference, at least when it comes to Navitimers in SS.

The below is imo not open for discussion.:

Short subdial hands are for small subdial Navitimers, long subdial hands, are for large subdial Navitimers. The subdial hands on the 2 watches you link to, are the long ones, the subdials are small.

"Swiss Made T" means Tritium on the dial, and it's not......!!!!!


Hence - calling it "perfectly correct" - according to the book (what we know and agree about) is imo wrong .....!!!!

Whether it left Breitling like that, or not - I simply don't know.....

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Kurt B wrote:
Mortys wrote:
Thank you Kurt for the info.

Your comment make things complicated, as Fred says that the watch is "Perfectly Correct".

Who's correct?

What about this one: looks exactly the same but in stainless steel
https://www.watchpool24.com/en/30733773 ... /nos/steel



That watch has exactly the same "issues", buying vintage watches is very much about using your common sense, and when 2 watches pops up at the same time with same "issues" it turns a red light on for me.

"the book" is a saying we use, but if I was you, I would use me as a reference, at least when it comes to Navitimers in SS.

The below is imo not open for discussion.:

Short subdial hands are for small subdial Navitimers, long subdial hands, are for large subdial Navitimers. The subdial hands on the 2 watches you link to, are the long ones, the subdials are small.

"Swiss Made T" means Tritium on the dial, and it's not......!!!!!


Hence - calling it "perfectly correct" - according to the book (what we know and agree about) is imo wrong .....!!!!

Whether it left Breitling like that, or not - I simply don't know.....

Kurt B http://www.kurt-b.com


Thank you. Great info


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Kurt this one has also long subdial hands on small subs.

Or this is a different story?
Just try to understand.
Thank you


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